Favorite Charts and Learning Astrology

Kyle: 00:00:04

Hello, welcome to astrology hotline, where we

Kyle: 00:00:27

time to be starting this podcast, I would say. But we

Tristan Paylor: 00:00:41

from Stella of the Lotus system.

Kyle: 00:00:45

Awesome. Well, do you have any pressing matters to

Tristan Paylor: 00:00:57

no. No pressing matters. I kind of wish I had I

Kyle: 00:01:03

need to have some (Tristan: life is boring.) Yeah,

Tristan Paylor: 00:01:16

Is that is true. See if we just like recorded our

Kyle: 00:01:29

the typical two hours of me and meandering conversation

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two to cancer risings, attempting to do a

Kyle: 00:01:45

Circling on it eventually, for

Tristan Paylor: 00:01:47

hours and hours. Yeah, we circle like hogs before

Kyle: 00:01:54

Gotta get comfortable, you know, it's true. Um, our

Kyle: 00:02:20

informative dive into the the asteroids. But yeah, I would

Tristan Paylor: 00:02:36

I like the term pet chart.

Kyle: 00:02:39

I mean, I would definitely call my chart a pet

Tristan Paylor: 00:02:51

you want me to get started? I do. Sounds good.

Tristan Paylor: 00:03:20

often goes along with being a monk. He wrote poetry and

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for a Catholic monk to do. And he was also a social activist.

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quiet. Thomas Merton had a stellium of planets in his 12th

Kyle: 00:04:26

six if you count the North Node.

Tristan Paylor: 00:04:29

Yeah, six six planets and and or five planets

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He had Venus conjunct the midheaven in Sagittarius, which

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justice. So I think that's pretty symbolically fitting. And

Kyle: 00:05:39

Venus also rules his third house. He's a prolific

Tristan Paylor: 00:05:44

Yeah. And the third house also has

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entered monastic life, he was 26 years old. And using a timing

Kyle: 00:06:33

Interesting. I feel like you've really ended up selling

Tristan Paylor: 00:06:43

keeps a keeps coming up for me in client

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know, not super alternative by any means. But nonetheless, his

Kyle: 00:07:22

So you kind of get that harmonizing element two, yeah.

Tristan Paylor: 00:07:29

Yeah, that's a good, that's a good

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complicated technique of perfections, which I you know, I

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religion, you've got the 12th House representing, you know,

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cold when he was waiting there because he was like, in front of

Kyle: 00:08:51

Just having to wait to

Tristan Paylor: 00:08:52

yeah, there's so just to give a little more

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restricting or limiting quality, there's also a quality of

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some of the potentially more positive significations, you

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But yeah, in their frequently asked questions on their

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the 12th house in its more positive manifestations. Yeah.

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else.

Kyle: 00:10:57

Yeah. Yeah, it does, though. Jupiter is at 29

Tristan Paylor: 00:11:18

Yeah. And he, his life was very unusual. And

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made his life and work extremely public.

Kyle: 00:11:40

Yeah. Pretty renowned, well known, ascetic monk, seems

Tristan Paylor: 00:11:59

Yeah, and, and Venus is also, you know,

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the public eye. And it's a good, it's a good rule of thumb, for

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concealed sort of brought out into the open and made public in

Kyle: 00:12:47

I believe traditionally, they said that it made the

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Yeah, the angular, the angular houses are

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their personal will to a higher will to, you know, in their

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communication. You know, they tend to eat their meals in

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being a monk is living a life of constant prayer. And, you know,

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by a planet in the 12, who's living a monastic life would not

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lives of his brothers because he was attend Adding to all of

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autobiography, he just started getting fan mail like people,

Kyle: 00:15:32

Yeah, well, so he has, you know, speaking of talking

Kyle: 00:15:55

applying to like a conjunction or strong aspect with mercury.

Tristan Paylor: 00:16:12

you know, that was my favorite. That's my

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technically not that traditional definition of a mutual reception

Kyle: 00:16:45

Yeah, or if they're not even in or, like varying degrees

Kyle: 00:17:05

Very shortly, like after he said it was right after he started

Tristan Paylor: 00:17:10

After his autobiography came out, I think

Kyle: 00:17:16

Yeah, yeah. When Mercury applying to his, the ruler of

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And something an important interpretive principle

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whatever planet it's most closely configured to and being

Kyle: 00:18:19

You Yeah. Yeah. Also takes on the quality of Saturn

Kyle: 00:18:41

things. So I don't know that I remember you saying something

Tristan Paylor: 00:18:55

So right. Yes, yeah. They complained about not

Kyle: 00:19:00

Yeah, just the North Node like in the 12. Like just kind

Tristan Paylor: 00:19:09

Yep. Well, and also can't write enough and he

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entered the order. And you know, that obviously shows up with

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ruler of his seventh house is that mercury once again, which

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relationships. And, you know, there's a sense in which he was

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with a student nurse who took care of him at one point when he

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his nurse to meet and secrets and they had like a bottle of

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Saturn Venus opposition pretty well, like Venus in Sagittarius

Kyle: 00:21:51

Yeah, but I find that interesting, because with Venus,

Kyle: 00:22:10

with the midheaven. The religious authorities, you know,

Kyle: 00:22:30

sometimes it's, it can be a little more slippery, a little

Kyle: 00:22:50

relationships. Those options were available to him.

Tristan Paylor: 00:22:57

Yeah, that's, I feel like that's a very 10th

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at the wrong time, depending how you want to look at it. And an

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chart is saying. Yeah. Another fun thing I just noticed is that

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practice, that comes up a lot with dating and casual sex and

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romance involved there. So the ruler of Thomas Merton's fifth

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house and I find it kind of funny that he fell in love with

Kyle: 00:25:00

Yeah, I mean he also like he like to work too right now

Kyle: 00:25:22

its medieval style.

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I don't think it's that dissimilar. I think

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it's like to live in a religious order. And it is a very

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TRAPPIST monasteries generally do, you know, they'll do farming

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prayer and chores and work and in a very regimented, strictly

Kyle: 00:26:45

Six houses of the nature of Mars. Opera stuff to do.

Tristan Paylor: 00:26:51

Yeah. I live with someone who has Mars in the

Kyle: 00:27:06

I think that whenever I see Mars in the sixth house, I

Tristan Paylor: 00:27:15

Well, and it's a funny, the sixth house is a

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know, it at the same time, it feels very busy. And, you know,

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for yourself, or, you know, achieve some sort of a goal.

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and the dishes are piling up, you know, I've got a gotta worry

Kyle: 00:28:23

Yeah, no, yeah, it, I think it was think of like a,

Tristan Paylor: 00:28:42

Yeah, you don't get a generally speaking with

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the background. And the exception to this, you know, is

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generally work that goes sort of unseen and on lauded in in a

Tristan Paylor: 00:29:45

for hours but I'm really curious to hear about your favorite

Kyle: 00:29:50

Yeah, so my favorite chart or my my pet chart that

Kyle: 00:30:12

Ferrell is a comedian, well known for his role in like 1990

Kyle: 00:30:39

listeners are least somewhat least heard the name Will

Kyle: 00:31:06

retrograde and being very tightly squared by Saturn in the

Kyle: 00:31:35

chart because it's important for context. Will Ferrell is 11th

Kyle: 00:31:58

with Neptune pretty closely. And it in turn is ruled by Mars in

Kyle: 00:32:27

that by a lot of traditional standards, it's kind of a gnarly

Kyle: 00:32:47

just being a very offbeat and goofy character. Get into it

Kyle: 00:33:11

whatever the established whatever, you know, is normal

Tristan Paylor: 00:33:32

Isn't there also, one of one of the key

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supposed to be.

Kyle: 00:33:50

That's the essence is that nothing is really funny

Kyle: 00:34:12

with this very Martian perspective, which, you know,

Kyle: 00:34:30

him. When he realizes when he laughs for the first time, and

Kyle: 00:34:53

and he just found that outrageous, outrageously funny.

Tristan Paylor: 00:35:19

I can't I can't help thinking about the movie

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doesn't look like the other elves way too big to be like CS

Kyle: 00:35:55

Oh, yeah. And even just yeah, the Saturn square,

Kyle: 00:36:18

appearances, can can signify deception, or putting on a false

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I really liked that because that's one of those

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overlooking, like, I don't really know what to do with

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having Saturn plates a certain way in your chart means that

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much more sort of neutral or subtle ways in actual people's

Kyle: 00:37:35

Yeah, that's me. And again, that's what I love about

Kyle: 00:37:53

probably a lot of the time in general, you know, it just plays

Kyle: 00:38:13

side. Like a glass is always half full sort of dude. Which

Kyle: 00:38:34

anesthetic a lot for Neptune.

Tristan Paylor: 00:38:37

It suits says that Martian moon.

Kyle: 00:38:42

Yeah, is Yeah, it's like, soothing, like sort of

Kyle: 00:39:11

too.

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Yeah, that that Jude the first thing that popped

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is you know, one of the best of the best things according to

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season when I think of, of Jupiter and you know, just

Kyle: 00:40:04

Oh, yeah. Particularly Jupiter in Leo, even though it

Kyle: 00:40:21

free.

Tristan Paylor: 00:40:22

Yeah, it's got a bit of essential dignity where

Kyle: 00:40:25

yeah. And just Jupiter in Leo in general, just the sort of

Kyle: 00:40:50

kind of think of like Ron Burgundy, who just kind of very

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There's, I'm also thinking about his

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a comedy show that was starting to struggle a little bit. And I

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second chance, is, you know, it, I mean, it's a it's not this is

Tristan Paylor: 00:42:09

second chance, you know, you don't, you don't turn your back

Kyle: 00:42:19

Yeah, I really like that, actually, I pick up a ton of

Kyle: 00:42:38

that are maybe by traditional standards, very good or

Tristan Paylor: 00:42:52

direct. Oh, that's lovely.

Kyle: 00:42:55

It's also making what's called a helical rise. Where it

Kyle: 00:43:18

So that kind of come out on the stage of in this case, the 11th

Kyle: 00:43:44

sharpness. This chart is life is. So he went to school, for

Kyle: 00:44:06

out what he wanted to do back in like 9090 9091 He took odd jobs

Kyle: 00:44:35

Not because he like stole it, he just like misplaced it. And

Kyle: 00:45:03

it's a little struggles with that sort of organization and

Tristan Paylor: 00:45:11

on that overcoming, being in an

Kyle: 00:45:28

Yeah. But I mean, it ended up working for him, or he

Kyle: 00:45:50

house year. So his seventh house would be in Pisces, which is

Kyle: 00:46:09

he discovered around that time, that he could make other kids

Kyle: 00:46:30

the sine based opposition with Mars and Libra. Like she would

Kyle: 00:46:49

between Mars and Saturn, with Mars ruling Aries and Libra

Kyle: 00:47:07

might be helping that, that situation out that helping those

Kyle: 00:47:27

planets isn't necessarily true. Like they're not not functional.

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And we need that life would be very, not only

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I have a lot. I have an incredible number of clients who

Tristan Paylor: 00:48:20

astrology.

Kyle: 00:48:22

When that's Yeah, and that's, I guess, why I ended up

Kyle: 00:48:43

quite effective. You know, they don't necessarily mean you know,

Tristan Paylor: 00:48:58

yeah, but you know, I do think it's a point I

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extreme. You know, most of us have, like, a couple of pretty

Tristan Paylor: 00:49:34

going to be pretty average. And you know, they're going to be

Tristan Paylor: 00:49:55

because they force us to recognize the ways in which we

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really good at in life, like what their greatest skill is,

Kyle: 00:50:23

That's the stuff you have to work on, you know, exactly,

Tristan Paylor: 00:50:25

you got to find a way to make it work. And it's

Tristan Paylor: 00:50:42

you know, losing $300 I'm sure those were subjectively not

Kyle: 00:50:52

Yeah. Yeah, actually, he. So it was during a 12 house year

Kyle: 00:51:16

know, he had like, lost these jobs, didn't really know what to

Tristan Paylor: 00:51:26

his wise Yeah, we should be grateful. Thank you

Kyle: 00:51:32

Yeah. And also, interestingly, the diagonal

Kyle: 00:51:57

it.

Tristan Paylor: 00:51:57

Yeah, it's one extreme to the other. It's like

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that seems totally mundane. And then, you know, 15 years later,

Kyle: 00:52:29

Yeah. And yeah, with him, would have been 1992, that he

Kyle: 00:52:51

say that as well? Yeah. It's like a major study the technique

Tristan Paylor: 00:52:56

I don't know if I've studied it way more. But

Tristan Paylor: 00:53:16

depends on what part of the cycle you're in. But if you're

Kyle: 00:53:31

Yeah, yeah. Well, in his case, he was in a larger Gemini

Kyle: 00:53:57

commercials. And then, in 1995, is when he became a member of

Kyle: 00:54:31

Those signs when those signs are activated, the those are

Kyle: 00:54:54

little ways that the Saturn in the eighth house squaring You

Kyle: 00:55:23

of comedy group.

Tristan Paylor: 00:55:25

Oh, that's fitting

Kyle: 00:55:28

exactly the comedy grouper or you started putting

Kyle: 00:55:50

something is called. That is you know, prominent in the person's

Tristan Paylor: 00:56:00

it's very extreme, which is also a very

Kyle: 00:56:08

Yeah. extremely funny.

Tristan Paylor: 00:56:11

extremely funny. Well, that is, you know, I think

Kyle: 00:56:20

know, Venus, and maca trough going

Tristan Paylor: 00:56:24

on now. I'm really curious what you have to

Kyle: 00:56:27

Well, he has Venus in his first house. In its fall in

Tristan Paylor: 00:56:45

one of the epithets of Aphrodite from the

Kyle: 00:57:03

Yeah, Venus is, you know, good times, pleasureful times

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telling jokes. You know, like he discovered

Kyle: 00:57:20

And I was actually looking for one, trying to find

Kyle: 00:57:39

easily treatable condition, but also a kind of funny one called

Kyle: 00:58:05

over everybody? You know, and actually, there's a Saturn kind

Tristan Paylor: 00:58:22

Yes, Saturn is supposed to be stopping things.

Kyle: 00:58:40

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a fun one.

Tristan Paylor: 00:58:43

There's this isn't something that you know, I

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astrology, like most of us are, and I would constantly run into

Tristan Paylor: 00:59:19

silly, goofy kind of sense of humor? And he's got mercury and

Kyle: 00:59:31

I think to just running with that. One of the things

Tristan Paylor: 00:59:43

The knots going in circles.

Kyle: 00:59:45

Yeah. Yeah. Not straightforward, but like kind

Kyle: 01:00:07

in the moon makes its rounds, you know, once a month, so it's

Tristan Paylor: 01:00:16

which is probably in an underrated

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his midheaven. So there's definitely some lunar qualities

Tristan Paylor: 01:01:01

moon as being like a servant with servants and like a king

Kyle: 01:01:11

Yeah. Yeah, I'm just looking at some pictures of

Tristan Paylor: 01:01:28

Yeah, so like, that's very awkward smile, like,

Kyle: 01:01:31

like, yeah, like, and I don't know what but yeah, the

Tristan Paylor: 01:01:42

that sort of discomfort as opposed to just

Kyle: 01:01:48

Yeah, exactly. It always looks sort of awkward and

Tristan Paylor: 01:01:56

Yeah. Unless you have anything more to say about

Kyle: 01:02:05

think that's all I got for welfare oil.

Tristan Paylor: 01:02:08

So our next question comes from Stella of

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a bunch of good beginning resources. But one I would say

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you know, breaks down what each of those three things means. And

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everything like that. And she uses a couple of chart examples

Tristan Paylor: 01:03:48

ruler ships and traditional house meanings. But you know,

Tristan Paylor: 01:04:10

start figuring out your birth chart pretty quickly. And she's

Kyle: 01:04:24

Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I'd necessarily say that.

Kyle: 01:04:54

it was for me like, initially, I've watched a ton of YouTube

Kyle: 01:05:14

traditional astrology, but like a lot of the books on

Tristan Paylor: 01:05:31

I mean, they're more focused on the planets, and

Kyle: 01:05:45

Yeah. And compiling a list of free resources. But what

Kyle: 01:06:09

techniques are correct, or what interpretations of a sign are

Kyle: 01:06:26

you know, their experience of having, you know, the sign

Tristan Paylor: 01:06:47

It's learning astrology is very overwhelming.

Tristan Paylor: 01:07:09

was a starting point to get me thinking about the planets and

Tristan Paylor: 01:07:29

certainly like a valid way of learning, it can be very

Tristan Paylor: 01:07:52

at it and then branching out, but I mean, there's, there's no

Kyle: 01:07:57

it did. No, you're right. It depends on your personnel. It

Tristan Paylor: 01:08:01

like, are you going to be easily overwhelmed

Tristan Paylor: 01:08:19

videos on YouTube, or googling stuff, the materials you're

Kyle: 01:08:37

Yeah. Yeah, actually, I mean, the idea of starting with

Kyle: 01:09:02

other prominent astrologers is the early part where you're

Kyle: 01:09:25

again. So I mean, it might be very nice for somebody who is

Tristan Paylor: 01:09:36

A blogger on Tumblr, very kindly, organized,

Tristan Paylor: 01:10:05

beginner friendly to more advanced videos. And I think,

Tristan Paylor: 01:10:27

But you know, at least starting there, and because like his, his

Tristan Paylor: 01:10:46

there are going to be things about, about his approach that

Tristan Paylor: 01:11:04

oh, there are these other alternative ways of looking at

Kyle: 01:11:24

Yeah, no, yeah, you're right. I mean, really, the place

Kyle: 01:11:42

it's like, for me, it was kind of having to dive face first

Tristan Paylor: 01:11:46

of like, find a way to to sweat, which is

Kyle: 01:11:51

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So yeah, that may not be the best

Kyle: 01:12:09

can put everything together. And that doesn't happen. Usually,

Kyle: 01:12:32

to, yeah, you have to, like be gotta get it, you got to know

Kyle: 01:12:54

to, like, a B have not only maybe your personal beliefs, you

Kyle: 01:13:13

different set of factors or, or ideas that challenge that and,

Tristan Paylor: 01:13:24

I think one of one of the challenges that I had

Tristan Paylor: 01:13:51

are very, very extreme. You know, you'll see like Saturn

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symbolism actually works out. So, like, stay grounded, and

Tristan Paylor: 01:14:32

life. It's not prescriptive. It's some people will disagree

Tristan Paylor: 01:14:49

into those sorts of extreme interpretations in traditional

Tristan Paylor: 01:15:11

inspired by depth psychology and Jungian psychology, where those

Tristan Paylor: 01:15:29

people's first introduction to astrology, when they Google, you

Tristan Paylor: 01:15:45

as a child, or you've undergone some horrible trauma, or they

Tristan Paylor: 01:16:05

kind of up to them, like how they match that the symbolism in

Tristan Paylor: 01:16:25

astrology you're learning from, you're gonna run into these

Kyle: 01:16:36

Yeah. If you have, like, any sort of academic background

Kyle: 01:16:58

you're with astrology or sort of in fuzzy territory of, you know,

Kyle: 01:17:24

of salt with it, because I can't tell you how many like, like, so

Kyle: 01:17:44

differently doesn't mean that, you know, that is the one way to

Kyle: 01:18:03

is, you know, specifically like, oh, this means, like you said,

Kyle: 01:18:22

the more extreme ones, but yeah, I reserve judgment. Yeah.

Tristan Paylor: 01:18:29

Yeah. And there's, I mean, there's a place

Tristan Paylor: 01:18:42

a language that we can use to describe our experiences, it

Tristan Paylor: 01:19:00

your chart that you know, if there are houses or planets that

Tristan Paylor: 01:19:23

astrology, like anything that's sort of on the fringe can be

Tristan Paylor: 01:19:41

straightforward entry ways and whatever entry ways you use to

Kyle: 01:19:54

I mean, I guess eventually, you know, after you

Kyle: 01:20:12

those people. But I don't think either of us would claim to have

Tristan Paylor: 01:20:15

Yeah, we have, we have our sort of take on it.

Tristan Paylor: 01:20:32

looking at it and figuring out which ones suit you. I mean, if

Tristan Paylor: 01:20:54

as well. They, they write like, a ton, I feel like they write

Tristan Paylor: 01:21:16

are really self taught, like they didn't follow a particular

Tristan Paylor: 01:21:34

valid entry point, you know, like you find some some sort of

Tristan Paylor: 01:21:52

astrology.

Kyle: 01:21:55

Yeah, that's, that's exactly, that's pretty much how

Kyle: 01:22:17

experiences with their charts, maybe how things tend to

Tristan Paylor: 01:22:27

That's a really good way, a really good way of

Tristan Paylor: 01:22:41

looking at you know, and they happen to have a public birth

Tristan Paylor: 01:23:01

put in the show notes. But I find the best resource for the

Tristan Paylor: 01:23:27

actually, like, show you what the source is for the birth

Kyle: 01:23:50

Worth Yeah, I ran into that issue today. Actually, I

Kyle: 01:24:12

that data bank about accurately tell you where it comes from?

Tristan Paylor: 01:24:21

welcome. When one other thing that can be kind

Tristan Paylor: 01:24:47

whatever. In order to learn astrology, the system that's

Tristan Paylor: 01:25:08

which is Aries, all the way through until you get to the

Tristan Paylor: 01:25:31

history of astrology, the meaning of the houses was

Tristan Paylor: 01:25:49

which system people are using. And, you know, I think Kyle and

Tristan Paylor: 01:26:13

traditional meanings of the houses. And there's some pros

Tristan Paylor: 01:26:32

understand both the signs and the meaning of the houses.

Tristan Paylor: 01:26:50

if you use the 12 Letter alphabet, you've kind of reduced

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itself. And you know, what those different parts of the sky

Tristan Paylor: 01:27:32

meanings, the older meanings of the houses that are actually

Tristan Paylor: 01:27:50

of the tradition of what the houses have historically met is,

Kyle: 01:27:57

Yeah, for me, I actually, I, I haven't kind of come full

Kyle: 01:28:18

way of looking at the houses, because there is overlap. In

Kyle: 01:28:42

Great. Just yeah, don't get stuck on it. The problem,

Kyle: 01:29:02

house, there's some. But you know, you could also do that

Kyle: 01:29:24

Mundi can sort of be seen as the first sign and in some ways,

Tristan Paylor: 01:29:40

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's one of the

Tristan Paylor: 01:29:59

match up with that? symbol, and sort of figuring that out

Kyle: 01:30:05

can help you remember certain elements of the houses

Tristan Paylor: 01:30:09

Yeah, that I mean, I also started with the 12

Tristan Paylor: 01:30:30

their particular triad?

Kyle: 01:30:33

Yeah, yeah.

Tristan Paylor: 01:30:35

Anyway, so I feel like, you know, I'm

Tristan Paylor: 01:30:55

will also hopefully serve as some food for thought about how

Kyle: 01:31:00

Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't listen to me in particular, if

Kyle: 01:31:22

overdoing.

Tristan Paylor: 01:31:25

overdoing it overdoing?

Kyle: 01:31:27

Yeah, yeah.

Tristan Paylor: 01:31:30

But that might be just the approach that

Kyle: 01:31:39

Yeah, some people like that, that sort of thing. But if

Kyle: 01:32:00

for free learning resources that I think will be helpful for new

Tristan Paylor: 01:32:09

I'm very excited for this resource.

Kyle: 01:32:12

Yeah, I mean, I'm excited about it to probably keep

Tristan Paylor: 01:32:19

Yeah. And that's, that's the tough thing.

Tristan Paylor: 01:32:34

money, you know, to find a lot of books on the internet to that

Tristan Paylor: 01:32:54

astrology school through YouTube. So I'll track that.

Tristan Paylor: 01:33:13

beautiful and ancient art.

Kyle: 01:33:15

Yeah, yeah. And if you're really just want to learn a ton

Tristan Paylor: 01:33:36

because you're listening to this one, so you

Kyle: 01:33:42

Yeah, hopefully that point in the right direction.

Tristan Paylor: 01:33:49

Sounds good to me.

Kyle: 01:33:52

What do you what do you have going on these days?

Tristan Paylor: 01:33:54

do I have going on? Well, before I talk about

Kyle: 01:34:11

Very noble, exalted sun,

Tristan Paylor: 01:34:15

and maybe that is me that is a sun in Aries

Kyle: 01:34:22

Look at me and how generous I'm not putting myself

Tristan Paylor: 01:34:27

No, I always put other people first. That's what

Tristan Paylor: 01:34:46

hour double episode out of it. So thank you so much for that.

Kyle: 01:35:08

Yeah, absolutely. And if you have you know, specific

Tristan Paylor: 01:35:20

That's right. In terms of what I've got going on,

Kyle: 01:35:37

you're not going to interest in this cheap forever,

Tristan Paylor: 01:35:41

still getting used to reading charts in a

Tristan Paylor: 01:36:03

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Kyle: 01:36:16

Um, can book a reading with me at my website, Kyle

Kyle: 01:36:40

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Kyle: 01:37:03

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Kyle: 01:37:32

review would be

Tristan Paylor: 01:37:33

preferable and not just any review. Like don't

Kyle: 01:37:37

one would, you know not be as helpful? If you don't like

Tristan Paylor: 01:37:43

Keep that one in your pocket.

Kyle: 01:37:47

But stuff like that does really help. So if you're a fan,

Tristan Paylor: 01:37:58

Oh, yeah, I've been slacking off on that.

Kyle: 01:38:01

And finally, don't be shy. We still are looking for

Tristan Paylor: 01:38:17

Yes, please. That would also really, really

Kyle: 01:38:29

Yeah, weird ones will get special preference. But with

Tristan Paylor: 01:38:51

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