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Wandering Stars: Tentacles of Truth

Published on: 14th June, 2022

While I work on cleaning up part II of The Aspects, I'm slipping an episode of Wandering Stars - A new podcast hosted by astrologer Ada Pembroke and I - into the feed. Wandering Stars is a weekly podcast where Ada and I have a no holds barred 60 minute conversation about Astrology, and serve it up pure and unfiltered. This episode we talked about the differences between Virgo and Gemini and some of the creative ways Mars makes trouble. It also includes a special guest appearance by (the birth chart of) Charles XII of Sweden!

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Kyle Pierce:

So yeah, I was talking about Gemini, right? Or

Ada:

Well, you were the one talking.

Kyle Pierce:

Was Yeah, you were okay. So you're saying that the

Ada:

was discerning. So I feel like Gemini is like the fire

Ada:

while also having the confidence in its own ability, and, you

Ada:

moment. And then if I need more later, yeah,

Kyle Pierce:

one, and that's all I can do. There we go. That's as

Kyle Pierce:

really is the way that we think about it. Because it's like

Kyle Pierce:

actually true, or something like I was actually looking at

Ada:

And stay

Kyle Pierce:

was quote that I really liked. That was like that

Kyle Pierce:

because Gemini can like hold two totally opposite opinions at the

Kyle Pierce:

the scary part of Gemini though, too. Because it's like capable

Ada:

Yeah, absolutely. Like, I mean, we were talking about my

Ada:

in Gemini, as I've run into this, like, they I cannot argue

Ada:

But Gemini is aware of the fact I think at a fundamental level

Kyle Pierce:

Oh, yeah. It's that's it. I mean, it. Shoot, I

Kyle Pierce:

and ninth house houses. So there those two are exchanging and she

Kyle Pierce:

catching, like, finding the fault, Virgo. It's like Virgo

Kyle Pierce:

you in any argument, because they can just adopt the position

Kyle Pierce:

that Mars in Aquarius, where it's like, a little more of a

Kyle Pierce:

the moral flexibility, I think is what gives Gemini the bad

Ada:

there is no truth. But what I say it is,

Kyle Pierce:

yeah, what is it that it's true, then it's true.

Ada:

But yeah, it's like, if we give you 1000 years, you're

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah,

Ada:

I move fast. I and I change my colors, and you never know

Kyle Pierce:

Like when it doesn't have to stick to the

Kyle Pierce:

I'll say I'll use this part. Where Charles the 12 was the

Kyle Pierce:

which was always outnumbered by the enemy. And just charging

Ada:

and you're starting to sound familiar, this is starting

Kyle Pierce:

Yet the bit in common with draws the 12 though

Kyle Pierce:

in them. And I use like maybe the progression of the moon a

Kyle Pierce:

planets in the 11th house are generally causative because they

Kyle Pierce:

going to into the 12th house, which is kind of the opposite

Ada:

Oh, goodness, I'm gonna try not to take up the rest of our

Ada:

progressed, Mars and Mercury have been conjunct for like the

Ada:

like, I went Mars went into my 12th house cancer, it was, you

Ada:

cancer, for me, it felt like, all of a sudden the lights went

Ada:

sensitive, it felt like, you know, I went from being, you

Ada:

vulnerable, and, you know, they should theoretically be the same

Ada:

fundamentally different, you know, the, the sea snail doesn't

Ada:

experience of being like, you know, I, I have not

Ada:

that same fundamental nature, but it was like all of my old

Ada:

octopus in the open ocean. And when my progressed, Mars went

Ada:

would not have thought to start protecting myself that way, if I

Ada:

that I already had as a Mars in Gemini. But the way that it did

Ada:

moving into a new sign, and I'm right there with you, I really

Ada:

it feels like all of a sudden your old way of being is

Kyle Pierce:

gone. You're in unfamiliar territory. Yeah, like

Kyle Pierce:

to Yeah, to defend has to have a den to protect now actually

Kyle Pierce:

you're just like, I'm just going to conquer Russia. I'm just

Ada:

as so cringe for me because I can see myself doing something

Kyle Pierce:

That's a really good way to look at maybe

Kyle Pierce:

about my progressed ascendant which moved into Leo and that

Ada:

Everybody does. Somebody was just talking shit about

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah, it's easy. But it's also there's it's

Ada:

And the secret is I and I, I I've compared notes with a lot

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. I mean, I think that she's talking to

Kyle Pierce:

there's, like a separateness that comes with authority. When

Kyle Pierce:

to be, you know, singled out, in a sense, maybe the sun in Leo,

Kyle Pierce:

to be more connected and equal with people. The Taurus, Taurus

Ada:

This is the influence of my Aquarius moon or what but I find

Ada:

in certain songs by them into the music. I was like, I know

Ada:

to be a rock star. And then once you're actually in the position

Ada:

position of seeing how everybody else shines and it's like, this

Kyle Pierce:

that I think it depends on with cancer. I feel

Kyle Pierce:

nighttime Leo, you know, it's I don't know how many cancers you

Ada:

really just turned to our explicit reading just there

Kyle Pierce:

might have been Banani. I don't know, saying

Kyle Pierce:

made them lazy and slack off. But also, when you get drunk,

Kyle Pierce:

And it's like, yes, until you're in and then once you're in, Hey,

Kyle Pierce:

become a lot of Leo II kind of qualities, but it's the

Ada:

Oh, that's for damn sure. I feel like I resonate with that a

Ada:

just a just a, or even a Scorpio maybe like a very, very

Ada:

absolutely. She's a Leo rising. Like, there's no doubt about

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. Yeah. And see, that's a funny thing,

Kyle Pierce:

people or something those, that shell Yeah, it's like because

Kyle Pierce:

guess. We think the moon signified like signifies like

Ada:

which middle class I feel like the gap between the lower

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. I mean, I think it's seven would be more

Kyle Pierce:

I don't know about Taurus, though. Taurus is little to

Ada:

no, I don't think so. Yeah. We cannot be the sign of bankers

Ada:

so much marzi shit going on in my chart. But like, I feel like

Ada:

many times before.

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah, I mean, it's it's, it's Like anything like

Ada:

I say just go for it.

Kyle Pierce:

Like I get I get it, I don't know it's like when

Kyle Pierce:

about to make it pop out. But then it's like you end up with a

Ada:

Yeah, all of the nuances gone yeah. You just get a world

Kyle Pierce:

That's exactly it. What do we what do we do about

Ada:

We need more Scorpios we need more cancers you know we

Kyle Pierce:

yeah yeah, I know that for interesting sign

Kyle Pierce:

undermining people's expectations. A few get that

Ada:

Oh, yeah, I have a Scorpio person in my life who used to

Ada:

school and like, I got the industrial gear with like, you

Kyle Pierce:

And just it's because that's like areas will

Kyle Pierce:

think? Yeah, I win. Like I always think of like a scorpion,

Kyle Pierce:

disguise. I feel like I can always spot like Scorpios are so

Kyle Pierce:

that they're being or something. I don't know. It's a weird game

Kyle Pierce:

fast because I like this. I'm not trying to get a reaction out

Ada:

exactly the same way. Or like I lived in like the Wasp

Ada:

talk about class like I was definitely a fish out of water

Ada:

know, like, piercing my ears in the middle of math classes and

Kyle Pierce:

am. I'm just expressing myself organically.

Kyle Pierce:

anyway, am I trying to get attention? But like I totally

Kyle Pierce:

like Leo is just equipped to deal with that arena? Like, I

Ada:

Healthy Leo? Yeah, healthy Leo that knows what it's doing

Ada:

this is bad, or this is easy to use, or this is not easy to use,

Ada:

image that I used at one point, I don't remember if it was on

Ada:

of their tail, but doesn't actually know that they're doing

Ada:

people who don't have a lot of support from other signs, or

Ada:

Leo rising Well, the reason why Trump is such a problem is

Ada:

you're gonna be the most obnoxious person in the room.

Ada:

Leo rising is that I'm essentially like a golden

Ada:

know, you're in my in my safe cancer zone, I guess. You know,

Ada:

window. I will. I will show it unabashedly. And I realized that

Ada:

I bring to the table. And if people don't like it, they're

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. And I think that Leo is I mean, that's how

Kyle Pierce:

challenge, and maybe the big difference between like Cancer

Kyle Pierce:

what what kind of weirdo or what kind of what the ridiculous

Kyle Pierce:

honestly, it's what makes cancers really nice to be around

Kyle Pierce:

or?

Ada:

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. The quality of the night sect

Ada:

it's constantly looking at building rapport. And Mars is

Kyle Pierce:

Well, it's back to temperament. Like, we're just

Ada:

No, this is perfect, because I was talking about this

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah, it's I think the point is to try to just go

Ada:

we need to do a content warning. This is only partly

Kyle Pierce:

Well, you know what it's about until until it's

Ada:

Oh, hell no, that's the fun of it.

Kyle Pierce:

I know I like got to jump in for the conversation

Kyle Pierce:

the response of cold and wetness of phlegmatic the phlegmatic

Kyle Pierce:

for a person is they tend to be more self critical, and self

Kyle Pierce:

people, but that sort of means letting go of something about

Kyle Pierce:

about this today. But

Ada:

the word that I that comes to mind, for me is softness.

Ada:

to make changes so that the the meshing will fit properly. And

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. But knowing the right amount of things

Kyle Pierce:

get too extreme on it. And you get sort of the worst of it.

Kyle Pierce:

self. Yeah. And

Ada:

you've just become absorbed in the sponge.

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. Are you? And that's maybe the other thing is

Kyle Pierce:

water. wear you down. But I think that's also maybe the

Kyle Pierce:

like, Oh, this is where I compromised this is, you know,

Kyle Pierce:

commitment, where commitment, it just makes sense to Taurus. I

Ada:

Why would I change? Not working? Yeah, yeah.

Kyle Pierce:

Why would I? Yeah. Why would I bother to change?

Kyle Pierce:

scales, right? It's about finding balance. Yeah. And that

Ada:

Taurus is inner peace, and Libra is outer peace. Inner

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah. Like going to seek out one. More Libra. But

Kyle Pierce:

around Venus?

Ada:

Is it good for the people in power? Or is it actually good

Kyle Pierce:

Venus that will do whatever I tell Venus to do that

Ada:

And it's one of the reasons I asked you to come in and teach

Ada:

don't know if this is my Aquarius moon and Jupiter or

Ada:

Yeah, you know, of course you want a well disciplined.

Kyle Pierce:

Venus in pisces. It's great. It is. Oh, yeah.

Ada:

I mean, it's, I have to say it's wonderful for everyone

Ada:

Pisces and it wasn't stuck anymore. But at the same time,

Ada:

you even deal with this nonsense? Like, there is no

Ada:

left to my own devices, I'm just gonna see power games

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah, the game is trying to deal with like all the

Kyle Pierce:

figuring out how to make to make beautiful things out of that, or

Kyle Pierce:

you know, that it has that maybe, oh, it's Venus, but it

Kyle Pierce:

head on. While with falls in excitations, talking about

Kyle Pierce:

sign are actually super compatible. So you think about

Kyle Pierce:

exactly the same. Like they both look like very similar

Kyle Pierce:

have it are often excessively good at Mars things when it

Kyle Pierce:

that is where it has to kind of walk a tightrope put Mars in

Kyle Pierce:

and find a way to channel it the best way possible. But it's like

Kyle Pierce:

challenging traditionally, because it's you know, if you

Kyle Pierce:

don't know, it's confusing. It's hard to know exactly what the

Ada:

Yeah, I mean, Robert Han says that Mars at its best is

Ada:

kind of, you know, when you look at it from that lens, it's kind

Ada:

has the tendency to be a little bit Scorpy onic, like I was

Ada:

anybody, but it's the it's the tiniest scorpions that you have

Kyle Pierce:

and the most approve. I think that was

Kyle Pierce:

yeah, that's work. Yeah. And that's I loved that about when

Kyle Pierce:

tempered when it's in an environment that as opposed to

Ada:

Yeah, the bodyguard for the queen and the diplomat,

Kyle Pierce:

yeah. And that ends up being actually actually know

Kyle Pierce:

ways that they have to compromise with themselves, to

Kyle Pierce:

threat from the outside because they have an outlet for it. And

Kyle Pierce:

combat. Combat is great if it's not actually hurting anyone, but

Kyle Pierce:

there. In cancer, it's almost like the job is sort of obvious,

Ada:

and so how does this play out for you as somebody with a

Kyle Pierce:

Hmm, well, it's the reverse, I guess, but it's kind

Kyle Pierce:

it's hard to again, right? No, it's because there are so many

Kyle Pierce:

needing to accomplish and carry out tasks, you know, accomplish

Kyle Pierce:

when to fight for my needs and when to when maybe my needs are

Kyle Pierce:

moon doesn't have, you know the equipment I'm just a widow moon,

Kyle Pierce:

costs, you know, they're sort of having to like tighten, tighten

Kyle Pierce:

care of, and, you know, sometimes it means setting my

Ada:

It sounds like it's complicated. For sure. Like, it

Ada:

a nursery. But if you're in a war zone, you want a big

Ada:

the same time, you know, we do send very sensitive instruments

Ada:

circumstances, it can be exactly what you need.

Kyle Pierce:

Yeah, actually, that's, I was actually really

Kyle Pierce:

comes up for other people with Scorpio men that I know. And

Kyle Pierce:

and dealing with them, big changes and transformations sort

Kyle Pierce:

that's basically dying, man, you have to sort of shed this part

Ada:

so what you're basically saying is that we should call

Kyle Pierce:

way whose care on

Ada:

the ferryman Yeah,

Kyle Pierce:

I thought I knew a lot about

Ada:

Pluto's moons, but

Kyle Pierce:

ah, yeah, thing to look up cuz that sounds

Ada:

but yeah, that that psychopomp roll like I really

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